Webchat on the Washington Post website

with some commentary by Dean bloggers
March 31, 2004

Note: this transcript is put together from posts relayed by Dean supporters onto their blog, and may not be complete.--Crocuta

Howard Dean: I would like to talk a little about Democracy for America. We are up and running and I will be hitting the road to campaign for grassroots candidates across the country and we are going to do the best to give the President a long vacation in his home state. Anyone who wants to find out more about it should check out democracyforamerica.com and anyone who really wants to find out about it should set up a chapter in their home state.

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Wauwatosa, Wis.: Governor Dean, if (horror of horrors) John Kerry is unable to defeat George W. Bush in the November 2004 election, will you consider running in 2008?

Howard Dean: We will worry about that in November. Right now John Kerry has to be the next president of the United States.

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Tucson, Ariz.: When will the DFA site publish strategy on how supporters can specifically achieved the 3 action points you mention as the focus of DFA?

Howard Dean: One of the strategies in Arizona is to work for Raul Grijalva who is running for re-election in Tucson. Very progressive congressman who is on e of the very first to endorse us. The other thing you can do is contact Frank Constanza our Arizona campaign manager. He is now running a large number of races for the Arizona House of Representatives. He lives in phoenix and can use plenty of help. The third thing you can do is help for a Democracy for America group in Arizona.

Okay, we are sunk! Dean responded to my question above, and the very person who created tons of organization issues as our state director, not to mention some really nasty approaches to volunteers, is now the state campaign director. This pretty much sinks any hope I had of DFA actually learning from mistakes going forward. Plenty of help? Ask the Southern Arizona offices if they would agree with that. Governor Dean, really can't fathom what you are thinking on this one...if we don't do a critical analysis and learn from mistakes we do not grow.

I already did do the number 3..created a state site and working on it the group so I guess we will have to go off on our own and be the progressive wing of the DFA party!

If I were a drinker I would be downing a gallon right now. Oh, well, I guess I will have to focus on progressive groups because it isn't going to happen here. :(

Posted by: cheryl at March 31, 2004 06:15 PM

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Dear Cheryl, I've learned that there are those who say and those that do, I'm one on those that just does. If you have seen mistakes made, set up your own Kinda DFA and bring people around that agree with you. If you build a better mousetrap, you will catch more mice. Posted by: Vicki upstate Ny at March 31, 2004 06:28 PM

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When I saw that post from Arizona, Cheryl, I wondered if it was you! I'm sorry that you got the worst answer possible.

I think you've done the best that you can do -- you got the URL, you've made connections, and you're creating an organization yourself.

I do think it sucks that we're all stuck doing this on our own, with the potential that there could be "competing" organizations within a state that get divided by personality conflicts and competing priorities and things...I think more structure and guidance from the top could help to create a framework within which state level organizations could be more effective...

Posted by: Maura in VA at March 31, 2004 06:38 PM

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Cheryl, Could you clarify your post....is the guy a jerk or what. Is he working for DFA or for the democrats? Posted by IndySteve at March 31, 2004 06:23 PM

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Put it this way, if Dean wants to criticize the media for being incompetant, he needs to look in his own back yard. I understand this guy is a close friend of Trippis and I think Neel (not sure about Dean) so I guess that gives him a free pass. He was the single biggest obstacle to our success during the campaign...and DFA KNEW this because I put my a** on the line sending them email on some of the issues. Waiting for them to respond or do something...nothing. I sent the feedback before our primaries and before he dropped out. Every time we tried to accomplish something, it was "we can't do that, Frank won't let us...". Meanwhile, our opponents were kick our a**es strategically and the response from our director? "Don't worry about it". Yes, good campaign manager there. And communication was horrendous, we lost valuable time waiting for "approval". Actually, those are minor things compared to the way he treated volunteers or anyone who objected or offered a varying viewpoint. I won't give all the dirty laundry here, but lets just say, in this man's actions he doesn't support democracy in any way, shape or form.

I am sorry, at this point, I really don't know if I can trust Dean's judgement. Maybe that is why the local group no longer uses his name associated with the activities...I thought it was disloyal but maybe they just got fed up with brick walls.

I just feel like I got punched in the gut once again. There, I said it, on the blog, for the world to see, per Dean's instructions since I guess they don't read email.

Just another disaffected voter. :(

Posted by: cheryl at March 31, 2004 06:40 PM

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Tokyo, Japan: Dr. Dean:

One does not run for office for second place, but I hope you are deeply proud of stepping into the arena and shaping the debate for your party and your country.

Politicians have formed groups before (Concorde coalition etc.) but they never seem to move the dial -- never seem to have teeth (perhaps the DLC is an example of a more effective one). How will you ensure that this group will make impact?

Howard Dean: We are going to start at the grassroots which is a mistake others have made. We will be based outside of Washington which will help and work from the bottom up.

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Annville, Pa.: How are your groups actions different from a PAC?

Howard Dean: The way we raise money won’t be different but the way we spend it will. We are putting money back into communities to fundamentally change the dialogue -- on school boards, county commissions, state legislatures, etc.

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Seattle, Wash.: Are you struck, as I am, that the excuse offered until just recently for Rice not testifying before the 9/11 Commission amounts to a profound and disturbing unwillingness to be held accountable? In your view, is there any credible sense in which submitting sworn testimony under such extraordinary circumstances might serve in the future to constrain the business of the Executive Branch being carried out in an ethical and law-abiding manner?

Howard Dean: The biggest problem the administration has right now is credibility. As you know I did not believe their reasoning for going into Iraq a year ago, and unfortunately I was right. Accountability is what is completely lacking in Washington, D.C. and one of the remedies is to change presidents and the congressional leadership. 566 brave American soldiers are dead and this president has yet to explain why in a credible way.

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Houston, Tex.: Heard a rumor that folks from your group were coming down here to help us defeat Tom Delay and company. Is that true?

Howard Dean: Yes. I will be there myself.

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Howard Dean: Stay tuned to the Web site, democracyforamerica.com

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Mt. Lebanon, Pa.: Thanks for running for the Presidency. I supported your campaign to the point of sending you some bucks several times. You made me rediscover politics after having last voted in Carter v. Reagan.

Are you going to build any bridges to Ralph Nader's campaign? You're both progressives. You're both inspiring leaders. You're both men of substance. Isn't this a natural link?

Ultimately, the Democrats will win or lose without you and Nader. So why should both of you put your ideas and inspirations on hold or abandon them altogether (the Democrat mantra) why they play out the current rendition of beef or pork (Democrat or Republican)? Some of us just want a bigger variety in our political spectrum and our visionary diets.

By the way, I've moved with my wallet over to Ralph. Give him my regards.

Thanks much.

Howard Dean: There is a big difference between George Bush and John Kerry & a million and half Americans with no health insurance, 100s dead in Iraq with no explanation why, environmental damage and physical damage for pregnant women and children who eat fish. These are just a few legacies on the Bush administration. Dean and Nader voters hold the balance.

A vote for Nader is essentially a vote for George Bush which is exactly why I am supporting John Kerry.

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Pine Bluff, Ark.: Hi, Gov --

Thanks for staying in the media spotlight. We need you there and appreciate your hard work.

I'm glad to hear you will be on Air America radio on Friday night. Now that our friend Al Gore has bought his own cable news station, would it be crazy for us to hope that you, one day, might have your own show?

I'm slowly resolving myself to the idea of President Kerry rather than President Dean (in '04, anyway) and it would be great to be able to look forward to seeing you every day in your own show.

I can see it now: "HOWARD DEAN: WHAT I WANNA KNOW"...every night at 7 p.m.! It might mean you and Judy would have to get cable, but wouldn't it be worth it to improve the quality of information and discourse on cable TV?

I know, I know, you're focused on sending Bush back to Crawford, Tex. from now until November... but after that?

Howard Dean: Whatever it takes to deliver health insurance to all Americans, balanced budgets and a foreign policy consistent with America. Although the idea of a cable show does hurt some.

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Northfield, Minn.: Congrats on helping Democrats find their spine this year.

I wonder how long your movement will last, however.

Democrats are motivated and unified by disdain for President Bush, but by what else?

It seems that politics is motivated by grievance--people who are upset about things--and I do not see Democratic grievance this year as equivalent to anger over taxes, abortion, cultural tolerance that motivated the modern conservative movement over a quarter-century or more.

What is your outlook on the long term?

Howard Dean: Our long term job at Democracy for America is to hold the Democrats accountable after they win and before they win, so they can win. We can?t win if we don?t stand for anything.

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Baltimore, Md. : It seems the Democratic party still has a problem on its left flank, since Nader is drawing enough votes in the polls to change the outcome of the election (again). Does this mean your effort to draw progressives back into the party was not successful? What can we do to prevent history from repeating itself?

Howard Dean: I think we need to make it clear that progressives have a home in the democratic party and in the long run we will be far more successful within the Party working toward environment, fiscal policy, and education policies that middle class Americans deserve.

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Los Angeles, Calif.: Governor Dean-

Will the new DFA be mostly concerned with electing Democrats or will it also be an activist organization working toward progressive reforms whether or not they're opposed by members of the Democratic party?

Howard Dean: Both. While we clearly prefer to work within the Democratic Party progressive values with a candidate who can win could lead us to support candidates not in the party. Dean for America was made up of moderate Republicans, Democrats, independents and Greens. We are interested in working for all those groups.

Howard Dean: I think we need to make it clear that progressives have a home in the democratic party and in the long run we will be far more successful within the Party working toward environment, fiscal policy, and education policies that middle class Americans deserve.

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Dublin, Ireland: Howard,

As a non-American who watched your candidacy with great interest and hope, can I ask you whether you think that the current domination of the American political landscape by the two main parties is serving the people well? It seems to me that candidates like yourself, who try to introduce progressive ideas and policies are immediately marginalised by the system itself.

Good luck in the future.

Howard Dean: I don't consider myself to have been marginalized. American political history is full of examples of so-called mainstream politics being pulled by reformers and even third party candidates such as Robert Lafollette and Theodore Roosevelt.

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Chapel Hill, N.C.: How can we change the negative perception of the word liberal and the positive perception of the word conservative. What the Republicans have done certainly is not conservative.

Howard Dean: In the last 34 years conservatives have consistently failed to balance budgets and have raise taxes on middle American by shifting taxes local governments to pay for police, fire fighters and education. Historically therefore Democrats are the party of fiscal responsibility and Republicans are the party of borrow and spend. Maybe we need a liberal back in the White House so we can balance the budget again.

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Los Angeles, Calif.: Governor Dean-

Will the new DFA be mostly concerned with electing Democrats or will it also be an activist organization working toward progressive reforms whether or not they're opposed by members of the Democratic party?

Howard Dean: Both. While we clearly prefer to work within the Democratic Party progressive values with a candidate who can win could lead us to support candidates not in the party. Dean for America was made up of moderate Republicans, Democrats, independents and Greens. We are interested in working for all those groups.

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Harrisburg, Pa.: What are your thoughts on other Democratic leaning groups, such as the Americans for Democratic Action and the Democratic Leadership Council? How will your organization fit in, or in competition, with such groups?

Howard Dean: Both those groups are think-tanks, in the case of the DLC, and advocacy groups, in the case of the ADA. Our interest is getting people elected in the grassroots and federal level. Our major expertise is organization and outreach so there is no direct competition. We will be allied with groups such as 21st Century Democrats which also does grassroots organizing.

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QUESTION: Can truly progressive candidates and ideas get a fair shake in the establishment news media? Or should we be trying to create and support our own outlets the way the right-wing began doing years ago?

Howard Dean: Create and support your own outlets. I doubt there is a conspiracy but there is an enormous amount of confusion and incompetence in the mainstream media.

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New York, N.Y.: I sent an email to you at info@deanforamerica.com.

I was just wondering who reads those, if the emails ever reach your eyes, and if I am likely to get a reply.

Howard Dean: They are read, but not by me since we get between 1,000 and 3,000 a day at the height of the campaign. We try to respond to all of them.

Howard Dean: Go on the blog if you really want input.

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Chat thread can be viewed on:
http://www.blogforamerica.com/archives/004127.html

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